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Bazza's avatar

This is a very interesting hypothesis which I am pleased you have put into words for me.

My wife and I are typical northwestern Europeans (resident in NZ). When we married it never occurred to me to expect support from relatives. Indeed, the closest relatives lived multiple hours drive away from us. However, our families have supported us in times of need.

Our "shared commitment to a moral system" (your words) is a belief in the utility of the scientific method practiced within a framework of somewhat impersonal liberal values. I say 'somewhat impersonal' because we care most about our kids, then about those people we interact with directly (actual friends), then with those we associate with, and proceed with declining emotional intensity to relatives, fellow citizens, westerners, and finally to people of the world (I guess).

We have 4 kids. We had them thoughtlessly. By that I mean without precondition. When we married we both had the intention of having several kids, though without knowing how we would afford them. This is different from the (middle class) people around us whose mindset seems more 'zero sum', more backward looking and more directed to individual hedonism (exotic vacations, personal comforts and status signalling).

Characterising our "moral community", rather than being religious, it's liberal, pragmatic, and resource conservative.

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Singh 47's avatar

Control for out of wedlock births and E Asia is higher than the West.

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